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Interesting Israel-Arab conflict Information

Posted by Atilla89 on September 19, 2007

For those new to the Israeli-Arab conflict here are a few basic facts about the history (or lack of) of each of the parties involved – definitely recommended. Check out the link here. Incidentally the person who helped was Boni123, someone I know from YouTube! Anyway, here’s the post.

The “Palestinians” are Arabs who were brought to the region by the Ottoman empire as part of the Muslim occupation in the region. They are definitely not the tribes from Crete who settled down in the 5 cities of Gaza strip after the Exodus of Israel from Egypt. These tribes were called Filistins and they weren’t Arabs at all and the nowadays “Palestinians” are definitely not their descendants. The Filistins don’t exist as a nation nowadays.

There was an Israeli/Jewish state in the land of Israel 2000 years before the prophet of Islam dreamt that he’s flying on a “magical horse” from Mecca to Jerusalem.

There was an Israeli/Jewish nation in the land of Israel.

There was an Israeli/Jewish kingdom in the land of Israel.

There was an Israeli/Jewish capital in the land of Israel.

There were Israeli/Jewish kings in the Israeli/Jewish kingdom of Israel.

There is an Israeli/Jewish culture and essence.

The words Jews and Israelis have the same meaning:

Jews are people of the tribe of Judah. The tribe of Judah was one of the 12 tribes of Israel. Israel was Jacob and Israel is the new name that G-d gave to him. Israel had 12 sons who later became the 12 tribes of Israel. These 12 tribes who were slaves in Egypt are the ones with which G-d made his covenant and gave them the Torah and its commandments, commanded them to settle down in the land of Israel – a land that he promised to Jacob hundreds years before – to conquer it and to establish a kingdom of priests.

In 722 B.C. the Assyrians conquered the north part of the Israeli kingdom and exilled 10 tribes (9 tribes plus parts of the Levi tribe who didn’t have an estate of their own, parts of the tribe of Levi were scattered amongst all the other tribes) amongst the 12 tribes of the children of Israel and these 10 tribes lost their faith, became gentiles and assimilated with them.

The Jews nowadays worldwide and in Israel are the descendants of 3 tribes: Judah, Levi and Benjamin (and some of them from the tribe of Menashe). Judah was the biggest tribe which settled in the Judean desert, then the Romans who conquered the land of Israel 2000 years ago called all the children of Israel in the name of “Jews”.

Zuheir Mohsen is widely known for having made the following statement in a March 1977 interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw:

Quote:
“The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.”

Check the facts from the link above.

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5 Responses to “Interesting Israel-Arab conflict Information”

  1. Hogwash! A typical Israeli-inspired propaganda. Israel always attempted to change history but, luckily, without success. Studying the Bible, Torah and Quran reveal something entirely different. If Jews existed in Palestine (funny that Palestine is mentioned by name in the Bible) before Moses, then who was the father of Judaism and therefore Israel. The Tablets were given to Moses and thus Judaism started then. Prior to that, the Israelites were the descendants of Israel (Jacob). According to Islamic history, Jacob was neither Christian nor Jew – and similarly Abraham.

    Read http://attendingtheworld.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/history-and-truth-palestine-israel-the-bible-and-the-quran-part-i/

    or http://attendingtheworld.wordpress.com/2007/03/30/ethnic-cleansing-in-1948-history-truth-part-ii/

    ATW

  2. Atilla89 said

    The father of Judaism, you idiot, was Abraham! According to Islamic history my arse, Abraham was the first Jew. Jacob was his grandson and the land of Israel was promised to him through a covenant. Hence why Jacob changed his name to Israel. Judaism started way before the giving of the tablets, and Moses was not the founder of Judaism, he was a great leader.

    If you have any other evidence that goes against what I have written in the post – and I don’t mean the use of holy texts, I mean solid fact which you can back up, let me know.

  3. Thank you for your filthy words. This probably YOUR nature.

    But the idiot is someone who is a fundamentalist in his belief (you) especially when the truth points elsewhere.

    Let’s start with Genesis 12:3

    The biblical promise to Abraham: “I will bless those who bless you.” (Genesis 12:3).

    If the promise was made to Abraham that He will bless those who bless “thee.” Was God speaking to Abraham or someone else?

    In the Torah, Bible, and Quran whom Jewish, Christian and Muslim believers regard as the founding patriarch of the Israelites, Arabs and Edomite peoples, (thus called Abrahamic religious tradition), Abraham is the forefather of these peoples. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham

    The Israelis have used the Bible to convince us that Israel should be blessed. But Judaism started with Moses receiving the Tablets. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses

    The Israelites (or the twelve tribes) are according to the Torah, descended from one of the twelve eponymous sons of Jacob.

    Obviously then the assumption that “I will bless those who bless you” means Israel, is quite erroneous.

    So before you use insults and name calling, check your sources. Unless of course, the whole world is wrong…

    ATW

  4. Atilla89 said

    Let me say it real easy for you, first Jew = Abraham, Israel was promised to Jacob. But your points really don’t make sense; Israel was Israel before it was called Palestine by the Romans. There is no such thing as the Palestinian people until 1964, a term created by Arafat. The Palestinian people were actually the Jews living in the area. Regardless, Israel has always been Jewish and/or had a Jewish presence there. It is also an undeniable fact that Israel is the home of the Jewish culture, religion and history.

    You just got owned…

  5. very interesting…

    funny how everyone seems to have the answer.

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